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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 27, 2011 2:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

Here's another Floyd gig in the sky:

http://www.gigwise.com/news/67272/Pink-Floyd's-'Animals'-Pig-Flies-Again-Over-Battersea-Power-Station

Animals was one of my absolute favorite albums way back when, in the remote dark ages before I'd ever even heard a certain other band ... and of course DSOTM, but for some reason I was always keenest on Animals.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 27, 2011 7:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

Warning: a great culture void has opened and threatens to swallow all that do not comprehend all manner of things pre and post Syd....

It's funny--knowing we aren't that far apart age wise, and yet, how differently we experienced the 70s. I realize how snobbish we Bay Area heads were...ANYTHING "pop" was suspect, and just as the success of Zep ruined them post their second album, so too did DSOTM, and by Animals, we weren't even paying attn.

To show how biased I was then, and now, I don't think I've ever listened to it...

But, I know in my soul it was worthless.

Funny, eh? Or does it deeply disturb you? Well, that would imply you care, but we had such a chip on our shoulders in defending the DEAD all the time that we simply dismissed those that were embraced by the public out of hand.

Then, of course, it was long before the DEAD assumed such a spot, by then I'd dropped out, of course.

Snobbery, pure and simple.

But, as I always say about CREAM, BD knows I'd say about Syd: one of THE most critical "players" of the 60s, profoundly influencing the "scene"...Brian Jones, Buddy Holly, and Syd. I always through (that's "throw"...heh, heh) in Donovan. But people prefer "threes"...

This post was modified by William Tell on 2011-09-27 14:02:11

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 27, 2011 7:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

I don't think people from Cleveland can be snobs. Reverse snobs, definitely, but not snobs :-)

A few years can make a difference, for sure, cuz it sounds like you were actually paying attention in ’70, whereas I was watching the Partridge Family.

Anyway, I was most definitely not hip in any way at all in high school. I instinctively didn’t care for a lot of what was popular – Boston, Frampton, Steve Miller Band, Kiss (but then only boys liked THAT) – but it wasn’t as if I heard much other stuff. I liked 60s stuff (which was not hip at the time, just "old") and a few other older bands that were still around, like Floyd and Led Zeppelin.

My father insists that he was once told me there was a band called the Grateful Dead (undoubtedly by way of proving how terrible rock was, since he's pre-Elvis generation) and I insisted there couldn’t POSSIBLY be, because it was such a terrible name.


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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 27, 2011 11:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

>A few years can make a difference, for sure, cuz it sounds like you were actually paying attention in ’70, whereas I was watching the Partridge Family.

LOL - I think we are the same age, 'cus that is exactly what I was doing in 1970.

>Anyway, I was most definitely not hip in any way at all in high school. I instinctively didn’t care for a lot of what was popular – Boston, Frampton, Steve Miller Band, Kiss

Aaaccckkk please don't remind me of high school, musically, that is, they were very dark days ... my high school class chose FOREIGNER - Double Vision - as theme song for the prom. How does one drag oneself out of such muck and mire? I do confess to having liked Frampton at the time.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Sep 27, 2011 11:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

At least my high school Class of '70 had a little more taste - our yearbook theme inspiration was Come Together by the Beatles, and the cover featured somewhat psychedelic art ...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 27, 2011 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

Ha! There is a name for those bands (Boston, Kansas, etc., etc.): "70s Butt Rock" (which was actually conveyed to me by my very hip kids, 30 yrs later...).

What's significant is that we did recognize that some folks of quality were coming along, but we had to get over ourselves and the obsession with the DEAD to sort thru them (THeads, Ramones, Police even--pop, but good, etc., etc.).

I will say that though EVERYONE got sick of Frampton in 76 (from Winterland!), he did some excellent work with Humble Pie, and deserves some credit for having paid his dues...

The best version of a Buddy Holly song live was done by them (Heartbeat? Hmmm...something like that), IMHO.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 27, 2011 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

70s Butt Rock

That's about right. Deplorable, deplorable!

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Poster: snori Date: Sep 27, 2011 7:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

WT I won't rise to this you know.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 27, 2011 9:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

But you do agree about Syd and his significance?

I do in fact now admit that the others had much more talent (PF members) than I gave them credit for at the time...it was just "hip" to dismiss anyone the "masses" embraced. So, it was fitting that all the PF lovers of my era (70s HS & Uni) would say "who?" when I mentioned Syd (ie, I would say, "well, I don't really go for this stuff but have you heard Piper, you know, with Syd?" and they'd say "no...who's he?", blah, blah, blah).

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Poster: snori Date: Sep 27, 2011 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

Absolutely. He was an inspirational visionary. People who went to their shows in Middle Earth or 100 Club came away changed. And it's often overlooked that a large number of women in the audience had come to see Syd. 'Sex,and drugs, and Rock'n'Roll' indeed.

If the mid-60s scene was about anything, it was about change. Syd led the charge, Clapton/Hendrix, The Beatles, and Dylan all played a musical part. But the clothes designers who kitted out these young gods as they hopped from club to club, and the Peter Blakes who designed album covers for them all contributed to change.

'Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive but to be young was very Heaven'

Or to put it another way = Colour shrugs and bids the Grey goodbye.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 27, 2011 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

Ha! We are DEFN on the same page as they say.

This is too good:

"Colour shrugs and bids the Grey goodbye"

Perfect.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Sep 27, 2011 4:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

Animals is STILL one of my favs...

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Sep 27, 2011 8:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

If you are an Animals-lover (hmm... that just looks wrong) make sure to check out 1977-05-09 from Oakland. It's one of the best sounding boots and the Gilmour's guitar has a nice raunchy-grungy sound to it. I believe I may start torrent-ing just for this show.

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/alpha/p.html
(It takes a little while to get past all the phish shows but it will be worth it.)

Enjoy,
TOOTMO

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 27, 2011 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

Worth checking out Col Les Claypool's Flying Frog Brigade's live version of Animals at Great American Music Hall with Jay Lane on drums, Jeff Chimenti on keyboards, and Skerik blowing mad sax. My daughter's first show - in utero.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbeep* Date: Sep 27, 2011 10:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

I was there with my buddies, about 20 rows from the stage.
First time I had seen them live. Gilmour was magic. The show was truly amazing.

http://www.archive.org/details/PinkFloyd-1977-05-09-OaklandCa

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 27, 2011 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

Well toggle my cookies!!
I had no idea that there was this much Floyd on this site.
What a dumbass I am...I should look around more.
I really can't believe that the money hungry guys from
Floyd would let all this downloadable/free music fly. wow.

Thanks *

http://www.archive.org/details/PsychedelicatessenSydBarrettSpecial7-8-07

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 27, 2011 11:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

holy crap! As if I don't already have too much to listen to~
http://www.archive.org/details/robynhitchcock2007-05-26

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 27, 2011 6:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

It has such a positive, life affirming message.

It's funny in a way, that with all the 'punk' music beginning to rage around them w/ its revulsion of prog-rock, in 1976 Pink Floyd, prog rock gods, come out with an album full of nihilism and pure cold rage. Animals is an evil album that still makes the hairs on my neck stand up.

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Poster: Hashjihad Date: Sep 27, 2011 2:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not Syd - The Greatest Gig in the Sky

It is weird how you say Animals is a dark album, because my mom told me her sister's boyfriend killed himself the day it came out, and that was all she ever could think about the album. It truly was a dark album. Saying that, I always liked Floyd, never really got into the early stuff. Now all Floyd is boring to tell you the truth.(Listen to DSOTM a couple times and just eh) Furthur covered time in Golden Gate last year, was awesome, but it was a nostalgic thing. You know Phil singing the lyrics of time in San Fran, almost brought tears to my eyes. My favorite Album has always been Meddle, fav song Echoes. Though I am 22 and didn't grow up with them, buts thats my 2 cents.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 27, 2011 6:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Syd is The Greatest Gig in the Sky


"Dogs"

You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street,
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder.
You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you
get older.
And in the end you'll pack up and fly down south,
Hide your head in the sand,
Just another sad old man,
All alone and dying of cancer.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
around.
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
Dragged down by the stone.

I gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused.
Sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used.
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this
maze?

Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
That everyone's expendable and no-one has a real friend.
And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
And everything's done under the sun,
And you believe at heart, everyone's a killer.

Who was born in a house full of pain.
Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
Who was told what to do by the man.
Who was broken by trained personnel.
Who was fitted with collar and chain.
Who was given a pat on the back.
Who was breaking away from the pack.
Who was only a stranger at home.
Who was ground down in the end.
Who was found dead on the phone.
Who was dragged down by the stone.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"Pigs" (Three Different Ones)
Big man, pig man, ha ha charade you are.
You well heeled big wheel, ha ha charade you are.
And when your hand is on your heart,
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost a joker,
With your head down in the pig bin,
Saying "Keep on digging."
Pig stain on your fat chin.
What do you hope to find.
When you're down in the pig mine.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.
You fucked up old hag, ha ha charade you are.
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass.
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost worth a quick grin.
You like the feel of steel,
You're hot stuff with a hatpin,
And good fun with a hand gun.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Hey you, Whitehouse,
Ha ha charade you are.
You house proud town mouse,
Ha ha charade you are
You're trying to keep our feelings off the street.
You're nearly a real treat,
All tight lips and cold feet
And do you feel abused?
.....! .....! .....! .....!
You gotta stem the evil tide,
And keep it all on the inside.
Mary you're nearly a treat,
Mary you're nearly a treat
But you're really a cry.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Sheep"

Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air
You better watch out
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.

What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by
With bright knives he releaseth my soul
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places
He converteth me to lamb cutlets
For lo,m he hath great power and great hunger
When cometh the day we lowly ones
Through quiet reflection and great dedication
Master the art of karate
Lo, we shall rise up
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.

Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yeah, really chipper stuff...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 27, 2011 9:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Syd is The Greatest Gig in the Sky

http://tinyurl.com/5wsl2ey

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